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June 07, 2007
Filed Under (The Internet) by Derick on 06-07-2007

From Read/Write Web: Rumor Mill: Amazon-Netflix, Yahoo!-Facebook:

Rumors of a potential acquisition by Amazon today sent shares of Netflix up over 5.5%. Amazon closed down nearly 2%. The price of the rumored acquisition is anywhere from $1.5 to $2.1 billion. […]

And via the Organ Grinder blog at the Guardian, Yahoo! is allegedly heating up talks to buy Facebook again. Facebook was rumored to have turned down a Yahoo! offer of up to $1.6 billion last year, and Yahoo! has recently been said to have had their eye on bebo as a means to sate their lust for a social network. The Organ Grinder doesn’t mention any numbers, except for an off-the-cuff remark about Mark Zuckerberg holding out for $2 billion (here’s betting he’ll hold out for more now).

Normally I don’t like to feed the rumor mill unless there’s some substantial merit to the claims. But I just couldn’t resist this time.

I can see why Amazon and Yahoo! would be interested in these acquisitions. Netflix could benefit from Amazon’s exposure and vice-versa. The same is true for a Yahoo!-Facebook deal. I can actually see the Amazon-Netflix thing going through.

I’m not as sure as about the Yahoo!-Facebook deal.

For one, Facebook is the anti-Yahoo. It’s clean… organized… easy to use… all of the things Yahoo! isn’t. Can you imagine a re-branded Facebook in the style of Yahoo!’s properties? *Shudder*

Second of all, I think Zuckerberg is going to want too much money. The often-mentioned dismissal of Yahoo!’s previous offer was greedy. At the time… it was a great offer. But the Facebook creator wanted more money. Now that his company is expanding left and right, grabbing tons of new users and press, and rolling out partnerships with whordes of other companies… he’s going to want a lot more.

Maybe it’s better for Facebook to go it alone. Maybe it’s better for Yahoo! to acquire a smaller social network and build it up on it’s own. I envision a massive revolt of Facebook users if it suddenly became a Yahoo! property.

And therein lies the problem I touched on last week. It won’t be long before so many companies have changed hands that people get fed up with having their personal lives - and information - shuffled around between companies. Yahoo!, for example, has a lot of users. But there are probably just as many people who wouldn’t be caught dead at a Yahoo! property.

What will these anti-Yahoo! folks think about a Yahoo!-Facebook deal?

Remember the angry explosion of users when Yahoo! decided to further integrate Flickr into the purple exclamation point fold back in January?

I guess we’ll just have to see if there’s any merit to these rumors.

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4 Comments posted on "Rumors: Amazon Wants Netflix… and Yahoo! Wants Facebook Again"
RustyS on June 7th, 2007 at 10:01 am #

I personally think Yahoo and Facebook would be a good cultural fit.

Despite all the outcry from outspoken ‘old school’ Flickr members (many of them my friends/colleagues) when Yahoo more fully integrated Flickr I know most of them are still using the service just as heavily as they were before. It was just a transition that had to come sooner or later. Google or any other portal would’ve (and has) done the same thing in that situation. There were bound to be some complaints when it happened. But I think Yahoo actually handled that one very well overall and has (thus far) been smart to pretty much not mess with a good thing by letting Flickr largely stand on its own.

They just went through a similar transition with Upcoming.org and they seem to be taking the same track there as well - don’t mess with a good thing.

If they handled a Facebook acquisition the same way I could actually see it working well for them over the long run. As you noted though, the problem is I don’t know if Yahoo (or anyone) will be able to afford what Facebook apparently wants.


Derick on June 7th, 2007 at 10:27 am #

I see what you’re saying. But I think there’s a problem with the approach Yahoo is taking with it’s acquisition strategy. I know it’s been done a million times for a million reasons, but I’m going to compare how Yahoo handles its acquired businesses to how Google handles theirs.

Yahoo, as you pointed out, seems to leave most of its acquisitions alone to function as standalone services. The problem is that we’ve now got a network of Yahoo services spread out across a million domains, brands, and communities. There’s no unity - it’s a big disjointed mess of properties that don’t mesh together into a Yahoo whole.

Google, on the other hand, has begun integrating its acquired business back into the Google fold. Google Audio Ads, for example, are now fully integrated with AdWords. Google Analytics was recently “Googlefied” and made a more cohesive part of the whole Google experience. Google Docs & Spreadsheets is a wholly Google experience. All of these products started as acquisitions. But now they work together and add to overall Google world. YouTube is one large exception - but I’m still not convinced that it isn’t coming. And you can bet your bottom dollar that DoubleClick and Feedburner will be integrated into AdWords ASAP.

If Yahoo isn’t interested in using these acquisitions to build the Yahoo community and Yahoo brand, it makes me question their strategy. Specifically… I’d be curious to know what that strategy is… if it one exists. Haha.

As far as Facebook goes… the more I’ve thought about it this morning… the more I’m starting to think Facebook should go it alone. There’s potential to build a massive brand in time - one that could eventually even compete directly with Yahoo. I don’t think it’d be wise for Facebook to let Yahoo or anyone else stifle that potential.


RustyS on June 7th, 2007 at 1:01 pm #

Yeah. Google’s done a better job of consolidating their acquisitions under the Google brand umbrella than Yahoo. Granted, that’s a little easier to do when you’re buying more utility-like properties than ’social’ properties as Google has (up until recently) mostly bought. Deja News, Blogger and YouTube are the biggest community-oriented properties that Google has purchased to-date. Rebranding something like Keyhole, dMarc, Urchin, etc is relatively easy. Rebranding something like Deja news is much more tenuous which is why it took them quite awhile to completely bring it under the Google fold. Blogger took nearly as long to bring into the fold and STILL operates under the Blogger brand even though you now use your Google account for login (very similar to Flickr.) It’ll be interesting to see how/when they try to tackle the same thing with YouTube. I imagine they’ll take an approach closer to Blogger than they will to Deja given the content and large community.

For more tool-like properties like Konfabulator and Oddpost, Yahoo did a relatively good job of consolidating those under their brand umbrella. But just like Urchin or Keyhole, that’s pretty easy to do.

I think because of what/who Google is right now, people are also more open to embracing anything associated with the Google brand. Yahoo’s not a pariah, but it’s definitely not the golden boy now. So it could VERY easily backfire if they pushed too hard to try to bring some of their community-based sites like Flickr, Upcoming and Delicious more into the Yahoo fold.

We both agree on the main thing re:Yahoo acquiring Facebook - It’s probably not going to happen. If they didn’t sell last year (when they got a VERY big offer while it was still a matter of IF they could be the next Myspace) they’re almost certainly not going to sell now that they’re CLEARLY on their way to being another MySpace.


Derick on June 7th, 2007 at 2:43 pm #

Yeah… I don’t think Facebook will sell any time soon. Maybe at some point down the road - when the thrill of running a company has worn off - Zuckerberg will sell. But I think he’s having too much fun (and too much success) to sell right now.

From day one Facebook has played a different tune than MySpace (not only in the service itself but also in business practice).

Perhaps watching MySpace get snapped up by News Corp and then effectively stagnate growth-wise has turned the attitude at Facebook toward one of independence instead of acquisition?


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